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|             <h1><a href="#positon-location-service">Positon location service</a></h1>
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|             <p>The Positon location service is a proprietary and highly privacy invasive service
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|             created by developers tied to /e/OS with their funding. There's a deliberate effort to
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|             hide that it's tied to them in order to convince other projects to adopt it, as opposed
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|             to using the similar service they host for /e/OS itself. Using the service requires
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|             uploading sensitive location data to obtain location estimates, similar to the Apple and
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|             Google location services. As with the Apple and Google services, it's a centralized
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|             proprietary service with fully proprietary data. Unlike those services, the people
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|             behind it have a history of publishing notoriously insecure software such as the /e/OS
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|             operating system itself which massively rolls back standard security, lags years behind
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|             on security updates and covers all of that up. They blatantly scam their users with
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|             false privacy/security claims for /e/OS, and nothing different should be expected from a
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|             location service from the same group of people. Multiple people involved in it are also
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|             actively participating in harassment targeting privacy/security researchers and
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|             engineers including but not limited to GrapheneOS team members.</p>
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|             <p>The people behind the Positon location service have repeatedly talked about the
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|             importance they see in centralizing the whole open source community around using their
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|             service while locking out alternatives to it through proprietary data. They have spread
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|             fear, uncertainty and doubt about making services using open mapping data through
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|             claiming that it's a privacy hazard for people to have access to maps of Wi-Fi networks
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|             publicly broadcasting their SSID despite that data already being available through many
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|             commercial providers including publicly queryable databases such as Wigle. Anyone can
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|             drive around building these maps and many companies have already built them, with the
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|             data available for sale, as Positon shows with them obtaining access to it. The real
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|             privacy hazard is sending your location in real time to a service, particularly a poorly
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|             secured one from people known to cover up and downplay vulnerabilities. Positon has been
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|             built to grab as much market share as possible early on before actual open options can
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|             emerge and gather the necessary data such as <a href="https://beacondb.net">BeaconDB</a>.</p>
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|             <p>The people involved in Positon have only ever cared about their careers, power and
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|             influence. They've consistently been on a side against real privacy and security, but
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|             rather focused on monetizing people's demand for it and grabbing as much market share as
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|             they can as quickly as they can with endless false marketing and attacks on projects
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|             like GrapheneOS. They see GrapheneOS as a huge threat to them due to us striving to
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|             bring people real privacy and security at no cost, which is far easier to obtain and
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|             use. This invalidates the business model of their companies like Murena. They
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|             consistently use their non-profits mainly as a way to earn money and promote their
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|             for-profit initiatives.</p>
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|             <p>The service claims to be free of charge, but a core goal is turning it into a way to
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|             get data from users to build their own database that's largely not going to be available
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|             for use by others. Using it is helping them build a future business at the expense of
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|             user privacy, little different from the Apple and Google services. This is not what the
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|             open source community needs from a location service. The claims of no strings attached
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|             and the implication that it's open are nonsense. Storing as little data as possible
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|             would mean using local database for the region, not a network-based service. They're
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|             opposed to doing a local service well rather than it being their long term goal. They
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|             explicitly aim to lock out other alternatives and deter local location detection via
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|             Wi-Fi.</p>
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